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If I play a, lets say Cadd11, why is it not called Cadd2 it's the same note added - isn't it?? Similarily if I play a add11th or add13th chord aren't I just adding the 4th or 6th notes from the apropriate scale? Same goes for C9, C11 and C13?? |
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Technically, you are both right and wrong here. It is the same note added, but the lower number is the actual note in the scale and the higher number is an octave higher than the lower note. Why is that done?
(12 Nov '10, 12:10)
steve zodiac
Honestly, I can't think of a good answer for you. The only thing I can say is that that was how music theory was designed many years ago.
(13 Nov '10, 03:36)
APShredder
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The odd numbered chords implicitly include all of the odd numbers below them, even numbers do not. C9 is a C7 with an added 9th. C11 is a C7 with a 9th and 11th. C13 is a C7 with a 9th, 11th, and 13th. C6 is just Cmajor with a sixth added (no implied 4th). So even though the 6th and 13th notes of the scale are the same note, C6 and C13 are not the same chord. On the piano it is easy to build the chords exactly as theory says they should be, C13 being: C E G Bb D F A On a guitar with only six strings, and four fingers, you have to make compromises. One inversion of C13 is: 5th string 3rd fret (C root) 4th string 2nd fret (E 3rd) 3rd string 3rd fret (Bb b7) 2nd string 3rd fret (D 9th) 1st string 5th fret (A 13th) So the 11th is left out. Other inversions will leave out different notes. To get the right flavor of the chord. it is useful to put the highest note scale-wise on the top of the chord (as in the C13 example above). So Cadd9 includes the 7th? and Cadd11 includes the 7th and 11th?
(23 Nov '10, 15:19)
steve zodiac
Why have you added a Bb in the C scale I thought the C major scale had no sharps or flats?
(23 Nov '10, 15:36)
Troy Tempest
C6 is just Cmajor with a sixth added (no implied 4th). So even though the 6th and 13th notes of the scale are the same note, C6 and C13 are not the same chord???????
(23 Nov '10, 15:36)
Troy Tempest
No, C add 9 is not the same as C9. Cadd9 adds just the 9th. But C6 and C add 6 are the same. The dominant 7th CHORD adds the 7th note of the scale flatted one step. The 7th note of the C scale is indeed B natural. (Sorry, didn't add this as a comment first time, not used to this interface)
(23 Nov '10, 15:40)
berek halfha...
I would like to delete the answer below, since it should have been in the comments section, but don't know how.
(23 Nov '10, 15:43)
berek halfha...
Okay, I just went back and read the original question. I am an idiot. The original question WAS about "ADD" chords. So Cadd6 and Cadd13 DO add the same note (but not necessarily in the same octave) and are interchangeable. I stand by my wanting to add the 13th at the "top" of the chord though, whereas the 6th might be in the "middle" somewhere. The description of the dominant 7thm 9th, etc is correct. My apologies.
(23 Nov '10, 15:48)
berek halfha...
If it is a 'dominant' chord then isn't it the fifth chord of a particular scale, i.e. isn't Cdominant7 actually in the key of 'F' which indeed does have a Bb in it, so if you flatten the 7th you'll get an 'A' making C6?
(23 Nov '10, 16:46)
steve zodiac
I was saying "the 7th note of the scale flatted one step" to avoid the whole 5th note of the F scale discussion which I didn't think was relavant to the topic of the difference between Cadd6 and Cadd13. The note by note description of a C7 chord is root, 3rd, 5th, b7th.
(23 Nov '10, 17:18)
berek halfha...
nice one ain't music fun - and debatable!!
(23 Nov '10, 17:42)
steve zodiac
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No, C add 9 is not the same as C9. Cadd9 adds just the 9th. But C6 and C add 6 are the same. |
Cadd11 and Cadd2 are not the same do not have the same note added.